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Innerrotor tænding.

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Indlægaf Nabo Jan » tirs 29. okt 2013 20:51

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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf strynboen » tirs 29. okt 2013 22:57

jeg tænkte at der er ledninger ud fra både den blå og røde mærkede spole..og man skal vælge en af dem at tilslutte..ikke begge ..så kun en af den føres op til cdi"en..på den måde kan man vælge omløbsretning..som bedst passet til tændingstidspunktet/rotations retning
rigtige mænd har mange knallerter,,og mc"er..og traktore....

sendt fra min dora senil telefon...nu fra langeland..men hedder stadig strynboen

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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf kreidlerhansen » ons 30. okt 2013 00:19

Altså... rent logisk... njarh, 'Hansen-logisk':

Spolen mellem de to 'metalpletter' må være fødespolen.
Ergo må hver plet være et triggerpunkt, hvor kun det, som er forbundet med fødespolen, er aktivt; I dette tilfælde, venstre plet/trigger.

Magneterne farer henover fødespolen og når derpå triggeren, idet svinghjulet drejer mod uret. Ergo må den være forbundet korrekt til brug på en motor som Kreidleren - at notgangen så sidder forkert, er en uvæsentlig detalje!

Hvad vil jeg frem til?

At både fødespole og trigger fungerer efter hensigten; Udfaldene ved lave omdrejninger forårsages af noget andet! Faktum er, at den klarer sig fint op til xx.xxx antal omdrejninger - motoren trak FINT ud, da jeg prøvede den.

Uden at skulle lege klog omkring elektronik, har jeg alligevel en nagende tanke, som går på, at der er 'kuk i kondensatoren' = overgangen fra fødespole (lav spændig) til tændspolen (høj spænding)

Den tanke brister, når udfaldene er lig ingen gnist fra den medfølgende CDI, mens en Mitsuba (Piaggio) og en Ducati (Aprilia RS50) forskyder tændingen ~90 grader, hvis ikke mere ved nogle bestemte omdrejningstal!

Det henleder nu min tanke på, at det andet triggerpunkt (FØR fødespolen) måske er delvist aktivt?!


Jeg har en custom CDI (tak til Kai og Ewald Rosner), som vi kan teste med, selvfølgelig. Kreidleren kan nok godt klare sig med en Mitsuba-CDI, igen. :)
Denne CDI har en avancering på i alt ~11 grader fra 500-13.000rpm og den har da klaret 14.000rpm... skal vi? :)
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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf Nabo Jan » ons 30. okt 2013 15:01

Jesper, vi kan godt prøve din custom CDI ved lejlighed :)
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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf kreidlerhansen » ons 30. okt 2013 15:09

Jesper Hansen

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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf Kai » ons 30. okt 2013 16:26

Hvis Jespers CDI virker på den, så har jeg vist stadig stumper til en mere i skuffen hvis der skulle være brug for det.
Hvis ikke du har tid til at lave det rigtigt, hvornår har du så tid til at lave det om ?

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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf Nabo Jan » ons 30. okt 2013 19:49

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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf Nabo Jan » ons 30. okt 2013 19:50

//Nabo Jan

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Yamaha XV 1100 Virago 1987 (Mc)
Yamaha Sting
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Re: Innerrotor tænding.

Indlægaf kreidlerhansen » ons 30. okt 2013 23:32

Jesper Hansen

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