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Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

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Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 18:06

Hej,

har denne Puch MS 50 2 gear fra 1976 (TUM 110). Jeg er rimelig sikker på at den kun har kørt 1774 km, og motor har aldrig været åbnet.

Men kickstarter slår ikke tilbage når den aktiveres. Havde forventet at der sad en fjeder da jeg i sin tid tog dækslet af, det gjorde der så ikke. Så vidt at jeg kan se på tegningen, så sidder fjederen på højre side. Korrekt? Så hvor meget skal jeg have skilt ad for at komme ind til den fjeder? (jeg er ikke så vild med at åbne for meget, den går som en drøm og er som sagt uåbnet). Omvendt så vil jeg have poleret hele motoren (strider de to ting imod hinanden?).

Hvordan griber jeg det an?

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 18:33

Rettelse, venstre side

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf knallert » ons 17. aug 2016 19:24

du får de løse nåle (lejer)ud hvis du adskiller halvdelene...det er så ikke så slemt
..man limer den fast igen med fedt ved montage...
..men thek lige dit krumtap slør..er det stort er det en fordel at justere med chims..dvs gå vidre og adskille halvdelene..og få ordnet sløret..det kan du ikke selv...men flere på forum har værktøj til at trække lejerne af uden.at ødelægge dem...på de helt gamle motore sidder fjedren uden på motoren..senere kom den ind
går kick frem ad?? så er den helt gammel type...jeg kan ikke huske on 76 har frem gående kick..og helt gennemgående "pedal aksel"
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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 20:03

Ja kickstarter går frem!

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 20:05

Ingen slør ved krumtap overhovedet! Måske dumt spørgsmål, men hvordan får jeg "kappen" af. Den der sidder rundt om svinghjulet?

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf claus olieklud » ons 17. aug 2016 21:29

hejsa... ja som lars skriver sidder fjederen udvendigt, du havde ikke nøde at begynde at skille motoren ad.

når nu du alligevel vælger at åbne op, hvorfor vælger du så ikke først at rengøre motoren udvendigt ? var det mig ville jeg havde vasket den i en spand med diesel eller petroleum - en pensel er god til at vaske af med.

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 21:59

Hejsa. Jeg har stadigvæk ikke helt forstået hvor den fjeder sidder! Beklager :)

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf claus olieklud » ons 17. aug 2016 22:07

hej... den sidder udvendigt på motoren i modsatte side af kickstarteren.

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 22:25

Argh olieklud. Har du et billede? Jeg forstår det ikke?

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » ons 17. aug 2016 22:33

Ahhh skal den sidde her?
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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf 12V » tors 18. aug 2016 01:09

Ja der, men der mangler en "klump/fjederholder" og selve returfjeder.

Resten af blæserskjoldet er skruet fast bagved tændingen, så den skal af hvis du vil have den pillet af.
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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » tors 18. aug 2016 10:36

Mange tak! påskønner jeres hjælp!

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf 12V » tors 18. aug 2016 12:18

Det er dette du mangler, numre kan du finde i res. kataloget (har linket til den i "litteratur" i toppen af Vesteuropa siden).
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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » tors 18. aug 2016 13:33

Fantastisk. Takker :)

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf knallert » tors 18. aug 2016 21:45

kappen omkring svinghjulet er skruet med 4- 5 mm fladkærv skruer...som sidder bag svinghjulet...dvs du skal bruge en aftrækker med gevind ..og trække svinghjulet af først....men hvorfor vil du det..og hvad vil du entelig..hvis motoren er ok..er det synd at skille den af
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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » fre 19. aug 2016 10:52

Jamen jeg havde misforstået. Troede at fjederen sad inde i motoren og at jeg derfor blev nødt til at skille den ad.
Så skal jeg bare have samlet det igen, dejligt :)

Har kun en tynd papirspakning, bør jeg bruge flydende pakning også?

På forhånd tak

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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf 12V » fre 19. aug 2016 11:34

Hvis der ikke er skader på pakfladerne, fra skruetrækkere etc., så er en papirspakning nok.
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Re: Puch MS 50, kickstarter problem

Indlægaf torbent » fre 19. aug 2016 11:47

Ingen skader overhovedet, som en barnerøv :)


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